tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post4275528337481164752..comments2023-10-14T04:09:50.089-04:00Comments on Who You Calling Boy? Theorizing Masculinities: Constructive CriticismLelahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03640732597515957150noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-83515401093506419912009-09-18T23:23:02.042-04:002009-09-18T23:23:02.042-04:00I forgot to comment that Women's Studies is th...I forgot to comment that Women's Studies is the most appropriate place for a course like this because Women's Studies is about GENDER and gender constructs and implications, not just about women. So why wouldn't this class be WST? I do understand the surface irony, but to assume that Women's Studies can only house "women-focused" courses is to fail to understand the Lelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03640732597515957150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-69271399274229035302009-09-18T23:16:51.659-04:002009-09-18T23:16:51.659-04:00I find it very frustrating to hear critiques about...I find it very frustrating to hear critiques about which department houses this course, who teaches it, how it's taught, etc. because the fact of the matter is that *I* proposed and organized the course as a *female* *Women's Studies* professor and certainly did not have anyone, male or female, in any other department clamoring to help propose, organize, defend, or teach it. If Women'Lelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03640732597515957150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-43120340750848697682009-09-18T18:04:23.954-04:002009-09-18T18:04:23.954-04:00Arielle,
In answer to your question I had the dis...Arielle,<br /><br />In answer to your question I had the distinction between a “feminist” and “female” perspective very much in mind when I wrote my post. My main concern arises from our group’s majority’s gender, not their ideology.<br /><br />As Ani pointed out, the experiences of female thinkers shaped and defined feminist theory. This is fine, as long as we acknowledge it and keep a Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17805452663324383377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-42508775082758631312009-09-18T15:22:16.270-04:002009-09-18T15:22:16.270-04:00Arielle, I'm not trying to call you out but I ...Arielle, I'm not trying to call you out but I found what you said very interesting:<br /><br />"And the fact that both our professor and TA are women-- well, I think that is completely irrelevant."<br /><br />Is interesting because we have already spoken about what it would be like to have male women's studies professors and we even had the reading about the male professor Kevin Alvarezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09802857232884751682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-9973355752261709972009-09-18T11:38:37.909-04:002009-09-18T11:38:37.909-04:00Actually upon rereading that quote I might have mi...Actually upon rereading that quote I might have misunderstood you. Sorry, if I did. I have the tendency to jump to conclusions. :/Ani Reinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11621065479316491959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-86934964533921536212009-09-18T11:36:38.336-04:002009-09-18T11:36:38.336-04:00Ross,
I thought this was great constructive crit...Ross, <br /><br />I thought this was great constructive criticism of the class thus far. The sooner we realize our issues the sooner we can fix them. :) <br /><br /><br />Taco- Thank you for posting that, it is basically everything I wanted to say. :)<br /><br /><br />Ari <3- "All of the ideologies discussed are supposed to be examined critically from a feminist perspective, not Ani Reinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11621065479316491959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-56961561231683421242009-09-17T17:23:46.886-04:002009-09-17T17:23:46.886-04:00I think it is imperative to address our "lik...I think it is imperative to address our "likes" and "dislikes" of our college courses. Feedback is necessary and essential in bettering the experience as a whole as well as future classes. I would like to address a few things in Ross' concerns. You stated that your "biggest concern" is that we are "examining men and masculinity from a female perspective.&Ari <3https://www.blogger.com/profile/05685054815617293693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-43524458136819166722009-09-17T15:46:33.658-04:002009-09-17T15:46:33.658-04:00Ross and classmates,
First I also want to thank L...Ross and classmates,<br /><br />First I also want to thank Leandra for all her hard work as it cannot be easy to do what she is doing. For that we all owe her a great big “THANK YOU, LEANDRA!” I also agree that it might be too early to judge mainly because 1. This is the first class of its kind and 2. This is apparently the first “real textbook” of its kind. This is not to say that this Sara Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07399483771311659869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-5322920231599159522009-09-17T15:33:41.127-04:002009-09-17T15:33:41.127-04:00I love that this class exists and that we have a s...I love that this class exists and that we have a space in which we can critique what it means to be masculine. The readings already have, and continue to open my eyes to hypocrisies in my own past and my current life. However, I must admit I feel out of place in this class at times. Having already taken several women's studies courses I wouldn't have thought I would ever feel awkward in aKevin Alvarezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09802857232884751682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-2214809373342729112009-09-17T13:42:54.606-04:002009-09-17T13:42:54.606-04:00I agree that it’s a little too early to judge the ...I agree that it’s a little too early to judge the class. I even feel uneasy with deciding whether or not I agree since we have had only 3 classes and noticed that there was a big difference from the first discussion to the second (third class) so I won’t and will only make a comment on the class discussion part of this critique. In women’s studies classes we focus a great deal on the personal Abigailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13867817412799654956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-79729040638146766582009-09-17T13:00:37.593-04:002009-09-17T13:00:37.593-04:00I understand the merit of examining men from a fem...I understand the merit of examining men from a feminist (and, almost by default in such a setting as our female-feminist-majority class, female) viewpoint. I know I can’t possibly speak for the men in the class (I can’t possibly speak for any man), but if I try to put myself in their shoes, try and attain some understanding of their position in our classroom, I think that I would feel alienated.Holly Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00383796653978240804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-35342923354367897012009-09-17T11:10:11.670-04:002009-09-17T11:10:11.670-04:00I definitely see your point Ross and I feel simila...I definitely see your point Ross and I feel similarly despite the fact that I am a female. I think my take on the reason there are so many women in the class is simply this. Whether she realizes it or not, Leandra is sort of like a local celebrity here in the UCF Women's Studies community. Her classes attract a lot of Women's Studies students, who are, for the most part, women. I don'Antiheroinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10215643733855404164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-39935105983834902852009-09-17T00:02:14.201-04:002009-09-17T00:02:14.201-04:00While I don't really want to comment on this u...While I don't really want to comment on this until others do, I feel compelled to point out two things: 1) I don't think we're far enough into the semester to make fair critiques about the class as a whole (particularly the "Third Wave II" comment) and 2) every single text is written by and/or focuses on men. I welcome and look forward to feedback, esp. with new courses, so Lelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03640732597515957150noreply@blogger.com