tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post7999968590048521813..comments2023-10-14T04:09:50.089-04:00Comments on Who You Calling Boy? Theorizing Masculinities: Week 8: Men's Friendships and RelationshipsLelahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03640732597515957150noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-19340181574939998062009-10-16T23:54:34.996-04:002009-10-16T23:54:34.996-04:00I certainly think there is at least one thing that...I certainly think there is at least one thing that ties all men together as far as those who deal with playing the role of masculinity. I think this common thread is the fact that every man realizes that the brand of masculinity that is prescribed for him even before he is born doesn't align completely, mostly, or even at all with his true self. <br /><br />I can't remember where I heard Evan Wysshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16028449808938657306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-55069548776432522762009-10-15T17:48:56.573-04:002009-10-15T17:48:56.573-04:00In the Lyman article, “The Fraternal Bond as a Jok...In the Lyman article, “The Fraternal Bond as a Joking Relationship…” there are many things worth discussing and I look forward to them coming up in class. Something that I’d like to call attention to is on page 149 where Lyman makes some assumptions about the men’s behavior. In talking about the joking relationship between the men and woman, the passage reads:<br /><br /> “The guys used the Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11224634021880790629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-9894561375557559882009-10-15T17:27:31.907-04:002009-10-15T17:27:31.907-04:00(continued)
Karen Walker’s “‘I’m Not Friends the W...(continued)<br />Karen Walker’s “‘I’m Not Friends the Way She’s Friends’: Ideological and Behavioral Constructions of Masculinity in Men’s Friendships” also had information on how men’s relationships differ across social class. Walker notes how “social class influences men’s capacities for conforming to gender ideologies” (326). Walker begins her article with what is, I think, a very valid and carly machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01079838635224883916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-81452670545472196882009-10-15T17:27:06.120-04:002009-10-15T17:27:06.120-04:00Over the course of this and other classes, I have ...Over the course of this and other classes, I have found that it is very easy for me to point out when we are forgetting differences in gender, race, and sexuality. However, one oppression that I often forget to consider in our matrix of oppression is differences in class. Class issues in men’s friendships were apparent in this week’s readings. <br /><br />Nathan Einschlag’s essay “Stepping Out ofcarly machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01079838635224883916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-4901603181719547702009-10-15T16:59:54.084-04:002009-10-15T16:59:54.084-04:00I imagine that there is more of a bond among women...I imagine that there is more of a bond among women then among men…just like we discussed during our second class that a man looking in the mirror likely see’s a human, a woman looking in a mirror see’s a woman, and a black woman would likely see a woman of color. The more marginalized a person is the more that person would see themselves as different and recognize what stands out to others. I Abigailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13867817412799654956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-19858196392403340292009-10-15T16:15:12.563-04:002009-10-15T16:15:12.563-04:00This week’s readings relate strongly to Men agains...This week’s readings relate strongly to Men against Rape. They illuminate our organization’s strengths and expose some of the dangers we face. I’d like to talk these topics using examples from Lyman and Arber, and then offer my own example of a progressive group that was poisoned by out-of-control fraternal exclusivity.<br /> <br />As Lyman points out, “male bonding…frequently takes the form ofRosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17805452663324383377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-43151260764328860912009-10-15T15:44:14.868-04:002009-10-15T15:44:14.868-04:00Whenever I think of male bonding rituals, I am alw...Whenever I think of male bonding rituals, I am always stuck remembering the Sambia tribe in Papua New Guinea whose young boys become men after swallowing the ejaculate of the elders to virtually bring to life their “semen organs” so that they, too, can begin production. (Article here: http://www.ndnu.edu/about-us/mission_diversity/documents/lauren:https://www.blogger.com/profile/05939565695806204959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-21814263328423327512009-10-15T15:29:10.174-04:002009-10-15T15:29:10.174-04:00In response to the question, "is there a comm...In response to the question, "is there a common thread linking all men together?”, I feel that to some slight degree there is a shared bond between men, but to very little extent. As the previous posts stated, it would be quite a bold statement to say that all men share a sense of brotherhood, just as it would be to claim that all women share a sense of sisterhood. Personally, I do not feel Brian H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04826071931573814224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-2649173290546697872009-10-15T14:35:34.616-04:002009-10-15T14:35:34.616-04:00It is quite obvious to me that bonding is not the ...It is quite obvious to me that bonding is not the same for all men. There are so many factors that go into a person (race, socioeconomic class, age, education, sexuality, etc. . .) that one cannot simply say, “You are a man, so you bond like this (insert male bonding ritual).” In the blog prompt, it is especially clear that each of the subcultures juxtaposed in the question are very different Ashley Halpinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13653497901538946686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-78109464028105098472009-10-15T13:58:07.488-04:002009-10-15T13:58:07.488-04:00I also thought The Fraternal Bond made a good poin...I also thought The Fraternal Bond made a good point about the joking relationship between men and women. It shows that bonding between men doesn't just affect their relationships with each other but affects their relationships with women as well, sexual or otherwise. Not to mention, this is a predominantly heterosexual form of bonding among men which I can't help but feel has undeniable Antiheroinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10215643733855404164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-37687150571502475112009-10-15T13:29:57.784-04:002009-10-15T13:29:57.784-04:00This week’s blog prompt is a bit crazy to me. On ...This week’s blog prompt is a bit crazy to me. On the one hand I feel like I could answer these questions and feel semi-decent about my answers. On the other I feel like, “who am I to say how men bond in our society within the different ‘subcultures’ that exist?”. I personally think that if there is any common thread between men it would be similar to that which exists between women. We all don’tKelly Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00961982503862672723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-90178612546378467642009-10-15T12:35:00.050-04:002009-10-15T12:35:00.050-04:00Foucault said, in not so many words, that it is no...Foucault said, in not so many words, that it is not men having sex with men that scares society, but men loving men. It seems that this was a theme in the readings this week from “Men Speak Out.” These men were some dissenting voices that sexism is natural, inevitable and desirable. “I noticed that she had quite deep friendships with her girlfriends and that they could talk about all sorts of Sara Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07399483771311659869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3961395393886635340.post-81138710295376390732009-10-14T21:47:35.885-04:002009-10-14T21:47:35.885-04:00In The Fraternal Bond on page 124 the “penis envy”...In The Fraternal Bond on page 124 the “penis envy” joke has been tradition between the sororities and fraternities for year but this time it went too far. This ties in with the mens "rituals" as descriped in the prompt. The girls say; “In the women’s view it had failed because of its subject; they considered sexual jokes to be a normal part of the erotic joking relationship between men Merritt Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12746804656222890099noreply@blogger.com